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movement

Alpina 669 (Venus 60-II)

maker not sourced⟨1930 or earlier⟩ range onlydesign:alpina-669compare specs · 2
⟨1930 or earlier⟩ range only — no source gives an introduction yearread from sources · staged
not after 1930
a dated example movement, ca. 1925 (+5 yr, the source says “circa”)“ca. 1925: Alpina, 669”
not after 1930
a dated example movement, ca. 1925 (+5 yr, the source says “circa”)“1) ca. 1925: Alpina, 669”
not after 1930
a dated example movement, ca. 1925 (+5 yr, the source says “circa”)“ca. 1925: Alpina, 669”

Identity

A caliber is three separate things and this reference keeps them apart: the construction, the names it is sold under, and the article a brand actually bought. A watch model points at an execution — never at a bare construction — which is why “same caliber” is almost never a complete answer.

IDesign — the construction
Alpina 669 (Venus 60-II)
movement
IIDesignations — 0 names

No designation is recorded for this design yet.

IIIExecutions — 1 article

No source in this corpus states which grade any Alpina 669 (Venus 60-II) was bought at. That unknown is stored as a real row rather than left blank, so it can be counted, filtered and excluded from any comparison that would otherwise assume parity.

unknownsynthetic
evidence: unknown

no source states which grade this article was bought at — this row exists so 'unknown' stays countable instead of becoming an assumption

exec:alpina-669/unknown

Specifications

PropertyValueScopeStatusSources
Jewels
build.jewel_count
15—staged
Seconds display
disp.seconds_display
small—staged
Casing diameter
geom.casing_diameter_mm
19.7 mm—staged
Movement diameter
geom.diameter_mm
19.4 mm—staged
Movement height
geom.height_mm
3.4 mm—staged
Frequency
osc.frequency_vph
18000 vph—staged
Power reserve (typical)
power.reserve_typical_h
34 h—staged
Winding mode
wind.mode
manual—staged

Lineage

The same relationships as the tree at the top of this page, with their sources. An absence in a column means no source stated one.

Ancestors · 1

Where this construction came from. Read up the arrows.

Descendants · 0

What came from it — revisions, variants, clones, licensed copies.

None recorded. An absence here means no source stated one, not that none exists.

Related · 0

Stored in a different table from descent. A successor is not a child.

None recorded. An absence here means no source stated one, not that none exists.

Sources

  1. 1
    Internet Archive
    https://web.archive.org/web/20181106094014/http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db.cgi?10&ranfft&a0&2uswk&Alpina_669
    archivetier 2retrieved 2018-11-0610 facts on this page
  2. 2
    Internet Archive
    https://web.archive.org/web/20181108101215/http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db.cgi?10&ranfft&a0&2uswk&Venus_60_III
    archivetier 2retrieved 2018-11-081 fact on this page
  3. 3
    Internet Archive
    https://web.archive.org/web/20230904022804/http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db.cgi?10&ranfft&0&2uswk&Alpina_617&
    archivetier 2retrieved 2023-09-042 facts on this page