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Audemars Piguet 2385
This profile traverses clone_of · derived_from · design_imitation_of · ebauche_of · incorporates_module · licensed_copy_of · module_on · revision_of · tooling_transfer_of · variant_of and keeps disputed edges. Every edge in this view carries at least one reference.
Generations run left to right, ancestors first, and the axis along the top is ordinal rather than linear: each band is one generation, labelled with the range of sourced introduction years it contains. A band reads “—” when no caliber in it has a year anyone published — the gap is the finding, not a rendering failure. Dotted arcs above and below the drawing are related edges — successor, drop-in, no-derivation — which are stored in a different table from lineage and can never form part of an ancestry path.
Every edge in this view
| Caliber | Relationship | To | Status | Detail | Sources |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Audemars Piguet 2385 | ébauche of lineage | Frédéric Piguet 1185 | accepted | interchange note: THE MISSING LEG OF THE FRÉDÉRIC PIGUET 1185 STORY, drawn 2026-08-24 during integration. The AP round authored this relationship as prose on the made_by claim because its target did not exist yet; the Omega/Zenith/Piguet round then declared design:frederic-piguet-1185, whose own file carries a sourced quote naming "the older AP Royal Oak Chronographs" as 1185 users. Both halves of the evidence were already in the corpus and only the edge was missing, so the 1185 fan-out read 1 of 4 named maisons instead of 3. WHY ebauche_of AND NOT derived_from: the source calls the 1185 an ébauche and states no modification, which is the same shape as ap-2120 / vacheron-constantin-1120 / patek-philippe-28-255-c against the JLC 920. Its sibling vacheron-constantin-1137 correctly carries derived_from instead, because THAT source does state a modification — a large-date mechanism added to the base. The edge type follows what each source says, not the house. | |
| Vacheron Constantin 1137 | derived from lineage | Frédéric Piguet 1185 | accepted | interchange note: Large-date mechanism added to the FP 1185 base. | |
| Cartier 205 (Frederic Piguet 1185) | ébauche of lineage | Frédéric Piguet 1185 | staged | — | |
| design:ap-4401 | successor of related | Audemars Piguet 2385 | accepted | catalogue replacement of a bought-in base by a self-developed one; the source frames the 4401 as clean-sheet, so this is a related_edge and NOT lineage | |
| design:blancpain-f385 | successor of related | Frédéric Piguet 1185 | accepted | commercial replacement, NOT descent. The source contrasts the two rather than deriving one from the other: the 1185 is described as "getting a bit old compared to the competitors" and the F385 as in-house and exclusive. |
Sources
- 1Monochrome Watcheshttps://monochrome-watches.com/code-1159-by-audemars-piguet-selfwinding-chronograph-review-price/presstier 2retrieved 2026-08-242 facts on this page
- 2Monochrome Watcheshttps://monochrome-watches.com/hands-on-with-the-blancpain-bathyscaphe-chronograph-flyback-live-photos-pricing/presstier 2retrieved 2026-08-242 facts on this page
- 3Monochrome Watcheshttps://monochrome-watches.com/history-vacheron-constantin-overseas-1970s-icon/presstier 2retrieved 2026-08-241 fact on this page
- 4Internet Archivehttps://web.archive.org/web/20230906060713/http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db.cgi?10&ranfft&0&2uswk&Cartier_205&archivetier 2retrieved 2023-09-061 fact on this page